EPISODE #958

How Sweden’s Herd-Immunity Approach Defied the World

Johan Anderberg

A lesson in logic and understanding you can choose to put to work in your own life and community, wherever you are in the world.
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In this Episode of The Human Upgrade™...

Swedish journalist Johan Anderberg joins the show to talk about how he captured a rare moment in his country’s history during the worldwide COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.

His book, The Herd: How Sweden Chose Its Own Path Through the Worst Pandemic in 100 Years,” explains this unique time. In it, he gives a fly-on-the-wall account of the herd-immunity strategy that Sweden adopted during the first year of the pandemic.

  • First, the government instituted no restrictions.
  • Then, it declined to order that people wear face masks.
  • While the rest of the world looked on with incredulity, condemnation, admiration, and even envy, Sweden stood alone in its decisions.

“We have to value the fact that different countries do different things,” Johan says.

Here’s what you’ll learn by listening:

  • How the Swedish COVID-19 strategy veered far from what the rest of the world was doing.
  • Why “The Swedish Experiment” has been alternately praised and held up as a cautionary tale.
  • In what ways Sweden’s laissez-faire strategy with few restrictions worked.
  • Differing perspectives—no judgment or right/wrong—about the actions and reactions of governments, communities and individual citizens during a medical crisis.

“It's a really important principle that you should be able to take care of your own body, and it doesn't matter if you make a really bad decision because at least that decision is yours.”

Johan Anderberg

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  • A lot of people may not know what Sweden did during the pandemic. – 2:39
  • Now two-and-a-half years afterwards, they acknowledge that the stuff they did put in place can for show.  – 4:33
  • According to the latest stats from the WHO, Sweden is at the bottom of the excess death list in Europe.  – 7:47
  • Like the war in Iraq that sometimes the data’s wrong and this time it was so blatantly suppressed. Was data suppression in Sweden the same?  – 11:57
  • You should encourage people to get educated and to be open to debate.  – 16:08
  • These kinds of problems have always been inherent in epidemiology. It started already with smallpox inoculation.  – 19:04
  • I don’t really care if other people are vaccinated or not. It’s such a personal decision, and I don’t care what medicines anyone else is on. It’s none of my business.  – 24:31
  • Far less economic damage in Sweden from what I saw from some numbers. It was half as much devastation for companies in the economy compared to neighboring countries that had bigger shutdowns.  – 29:01
  • I experienced about a 90% reduction in new accounts, seeing my content during the pandemic.  – 33:37
  • If we were to have one culture and one government across the entire planet, it’ll probably fail because of a lack of diversity. – 38:05

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