Philipp: [00:00:00] We know and have proven scientifically that we can copy any frequency that exists. For example, a molecular frequency of a vitamin C, pill of a healing [00:00:10] plan. If we can change our frequency state, that is what we invite into our lives.
Music: We need to understand first is that we're all energy and frequency to begin with, but we're [00:00:20] not just.
Solid mean bags. We actually
Dave: are energy in frequencies. Our bodies are provably quantum systems. We've finally proved it in living brain [00:00:30] tissue inside people's brains that all the proton spin changes with your heart rate. We are quantum at our very core
Philipp: 5G 4G, wifi, et cetera, which act [00:00:40] destructive or harmful to a physiological organism.
We know that about us, right? But it's also true for plants and for animals.
Dave: What is the single most [00:00:50] convincing piece of data you've seen demonstrating that quantum energy really directly affects biology? You are listening to the Human upgrade with Dave [00:01:00] asee,
Phil. We've been friends for a long time, and I've been a supporter of your stuff. Because you use science, even [00:01:10] though a lot of people will say it's woo. I think there's overwhelming evidence that you're doing something that really, really works, which is why I'm willing to put my reputation on the line talking [00:01:20] about it and even endorsing it because like, it, it's real, like I'm wearing ugly LA quantum right now.
Since you've been in the field for so long, why do people have so much [00:01:30] resistance to energy medicine?
Philipp: So, that's a great question, and I must say it's amazing to see in the biohacking space that. I don't really see that resistance anymore [00:01:40] because people get it. People start to understand the war, energy and frequency to begin with, and they realize that, and, and they're very open to it, and then they feel it, and then they [00:01:50] look at the science and it works.
But I think there's a vast majority of the people out there that, for them it's a, it's a territory that is. Not [00:02:00] known. It's sort of the unknown because people, if you're a mathematicians, for example, you can calculate all day long. You feel very comfortable in that terrain. I. But if it gets [00:02:10] into the inner world, they feel unsecured at first because they don't really get it.
They don't know how to interact with their inner voice and all of that. So that's maybe the [00:02:20] fear of their own inner power. And partially it's the narrative of the past that told us, well, it's all as physical. We're just meet backs that run around and. And [00:02:30] it's, it's this feeling of the unknown. I think those are the three aspects and people need to move through that in the next five years.
And who doesn't? It's just gonna [00:02:40] be getting really tough washcloth in the face that are very, very cold because it's the time right now that we realize our own inner power again. [00:02:50] That has to be a European analogy. A a tough cold washcloth to the face. That's what we got when we were little kids, when we didn't wanna wake up.
Exactly. And everyone in Europe knows
Dave: [00:03:00] that I got it. So for Americans, we just use pepper spray. It's so much faster. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just a little different, you know, we cup, okay. Maybe not, and for the record, I have never used [00:03:10] pepper spray for parenting, but I have made jokes about it because we've all thought about it one time.
All right. It feels like somehow we've learned that we have to get permission from someone [00:03:20] else to pay attention to or to believe what we're experiencing in our inner state. Where do you think that came from?
Philipp: That's a deep question. I think it comes from the, from the [00:03:30] narrative of the past, and it's probably also the narrative of the presence still, right?
Because. Too many people still look up to someone to solve their [00:03:40] problem and to take that into their hands and to give up their own whatever they know to be true. They, they give up the [00:03:50] decision making.
Music: Mm-hmm.
Philipp: To someone else. And I think that's just part of how the world moved in politics and in many other places.
And it's about time that [00:04:00] we reverse that because you know what, we know to be true, we should follow that. Okay.
Dave: In my new book and heavily meditated, I talk about [00:04:10] intuition and how important that is and how to identify it. And what seems to be happening is when people try Lela Quantum, intuitively I feel better.[00:04:20]
And I woke up and I felt different, right? And then another voice in the head comes in and I think I know where that comes from. And it says, oh, [00:04:30] that can't work. Therefore it doesn't. And so that, that's nonsense thinking. That's big pharma thinking, right? This is someone saying, I had direct [00:04:40] evidence of something happening, but I don't believe it can happen.
Therefore I will not allow myself to see it. Is there a technique that you use personally to overcome your own bias?
Philipp: [00:04:50] That's also a great question. So. Yes, indeed. So if there's something where I feel okay, I need to really stretch my [00:05:00] thought and my perspective, I try to take the point and the position of the opposite perspective and just stick with it for a little bit and stay there.[00:05:10]
And then I can go back to my own standpoint and then I can look from both perspectives. That's what I suggest to do.
Music: Mm-hmm.
Philipp: In [00:05:20] general.
Dave: I like to ask myself, you know, the, the original question there, is it true and what do I have to [00:05:30] believe? In order for that to be true. And what I find is usually there's an assumption that I haven't questioned, I haven't tested, and one of the biggest ones [00:05:40] is there's only one cause for autism, there's only one cause.
What evidence do we have? There's one. Cause it, it's settled. There's only one cause for pizza. Like, well, [00:05:50] I think you have to have a recipe to make pizza with different ingredients in the right order, with the right heat and all the other stuff. So. I don't know all of the assumptions that I've [00:06:00] made that are untested and probably aren't true, but I know there's some in there.
So when I find myself working on accepting something that could be possible or could be complete [00:06:10] nonsense, I'm always walking that line. And if you, you blunder too far into the land of meat, robots. Then life sucks and you live in your [00:06:20] head and you don't feel anything except for angry, upset, disconnected, and all those kinds of things.
But if you go too far in the other direction, I. Then that's what they call the land of the [00:06:30] Lotus Eaters. And you know, then you're the yoga teacher who can't show up to your own class on time because you were flowing right. And you're dysfunctional in the world. And, [00:06:40] and so to keep one foot on each side has been, I.
My practice where I've done the shamanic training and all the energy stuff that's in my, my new book that includes a [00:06:50] willingness to consider what you've built and say, okay, does it work right? And do I experience that it works and is there other evidence in case I have a bias here? So it's like [00:07:00] one foot in the esoteric.
Spiritual, emotional, mystical, and even irrational. And one foot in the hard science [00:07:10] rational. And if I can maintain that with feeling safe going to either side for a brief period, it seems like I can get more truth out of the world. And that was why when [00:07:20] you first reached out years ago with Lela Quantum and said, check this out.
I literally to myself said, I have a drawer full of weird ass pendants [00:07:30] that people send me, and stickers and bracelets, and my experience has been that the vast majority of them don't really do very much, but that the people who create them sure want [00:07:40] them to do things. And so I'm like, great. Lila Quantum's, probably one of those.
But you were persistent and you kept coming back. Well, I actually have data. I'm like, all right, I gotta try this thing. [00:07:50] So I tried the pendant. I, I tried the cube and actually I traveled with, and I've traveled one for the past five years in my luggage, the small travel size cube, [00:08:00] because you have overwhelming scientific evidence, and I perceive that it works.
In the face of scientific evidence, I'm willing to do something that I don't perceive because there are many things we don't perceive. [00:08:10] And I think with Lila Quantum, I have no issues doing it. And it would've been easier for me, Philip, to just be like, [00:08:20] thanks. Your stuff works. I'm not gonna talk about it because it makes people question whether I'm crazy or not.
And. That would be out of integrity from the way I, I run my life. Hey, if, if I [00:08:30] think it works, I think there's good evidence I'm gonna share it. Even if maybe, you know, I'm gonna take some hits for it. I don't care. Right. Because I think people should know about it. So I'm curating the, the stuff that has [00:08:40] merit.
And so you've, you built some really cool stuff. And what I wanna know, what is the single most convincing piece of data you've seen [00:08:50] demonstrating that quantum energy really directly affects biology?
Philipp: There's not the single one. There's double blind, randomized, placebo [00:09:00] controlled research in regards to the blood with statistical significance, which blows everyone's minds when they see it happen.
Yeah. And actually did the same thing with the [00:09:10] investigators of those labs because they thought it couldn't work, which is a great situation for us. If you have investigators that try to prove it can't work, but then they find [00:09:20] out it does work. That's. Quite significant. That's the best. Yeah. Cellular function, you know, done by the University of Tulsa, Dr.
Robert Chief, an expert in a TP [00:09:30] production studies and wound healing studies with actual human cells. He ran eight different studies, each of them, statistically significant, proving [00:09:40] that a TP production increases in actual human cells. Randomized double-blind, and that wound healing accelerates by 46 to a hundred [00:09:50] percent if exposed to our technology.
And those were just basic settings, I must say that we didn't. Okay. So we have the capability to even increase that with [00:10:00] specific frequency settings, and now we're moving into. Brain research as well. So those three, I would pull those out and say, [00:10:10] that is the most important stuff you should look at. We have tons more like the clinical trial with 42 autistic kits and things like that, but those three, I think, [00:10:20] yeah, are very fascinating.
Dave: Okay. I, I love that. That is really strong evidence. And people can just argue, we've been using the gratitude [00:10:30] frequencies at 40 years of Zen because gratitude's a part of the reset process. And so all of the graduates of Zen get, you know, one of the cards and they're a hundred, [00:10:40] $179 a piece. I think. And 145.
145. All right, there we go. But we're gifting those to graduates because if, if you can carry a frequency in your body, like where [00:10:50] does the frequency live? Is it in the water, in the cells, in the cell membranes, in the fascia, in the brain, in the nervous system? Well, it's kind of in all of those things, right?
And so I, [00:11:00] I, I do believe that, that, that makes a difference. And one of the things that convinced me there, and again, these are anecdotal and you have all the hard science too. I have a [00:11:10] very well-trained shamanic friend who's just traveled the world's learning energy techniques. I was using one of the Lila quantum [00:11:20] cards in my left, like thigh pocket.
I'd had it there for about six weeks, and she sat down and she looked at me and she goes, every time [00:11:30] I see you, the energy field on the left side of your body. Like it's different on that side. What, what is going on with that? Like, I've never seen this in you before and I don't [00:11:40] know what it is, right? And I thought, I have no idea.
Like, you know, I, I know how to manipulate my field, but I don't perceive it very well. And so I wasn't sensing [00:11:50] that, and I thought about it and I said, well, oh, maybe it's this. And, and so I took the cart out and I sat it down and she goes. What is that like? Your field looks like it did before. So she was [00:12:00] noticing the effect without knowing that I hadn't done anything.
Things like that are not random and they cannot be placebo because there's no knowledge about it. So, same thing, [00:12:10] I've, I've shared this on the show before when you sent me the first cube. All right, fine. I'll, I'll, I'll use it, but I'm gonna use it to put flowers on 'cause like it propped them [00:12:20] up in the right way.
And I had two sets of identical tulips. One is sitting on it, one is sitting. Probably five feet away and they last three times longer sitting on top of [00:12:30] the Lila Quantum Cube and. I wasn't expecting that. I don't think I was doing that with my magical superpowers. Right? So [00:12:40] observations like that, I think matter and bio hackers have learned it's okay to measure my own results and to honor my results instead of discounting my results because I'm [00:12:50] not as good as whatever Pfizer's study was or something.
So, so thanks for making stuff that works and, and genuinely I appreciate that.
Philipp: By the way, while you're looking for the next question. Mm-hmm. And [00:13:00] of course we're talking about human health and wellness and all of that, right? Biohacking. What about biohacking for pets? So we run a 30 dog study that was done [00:13:10] by the base institute in Austria with four different testing methods.
And I bring that up because you know, we're always talking about placebo controlled, that, that it's so important. And all those human studies that I [00:13:20] referenced were placebo controlled, but now. Taking it to dogs, right? Dogs have no clue. It was done with just western veterinarian diagnostics [00:13:30] with a besa testing method.
Mm-hmm. Which is biosystem analysis based on deca vol lifeblood analysis. And surveys of the pet owners. So [00:13:40] four different ways to evaluate over a, I think it was an 11 month or 12 month study.
Dave: Did you put like a pendant on their collar or did you use the quantum
Philipp: upgrade [00:13:50] service? We used the quantum upgrade.
Okay. And so. And we were not involved. That was the, the, the research institute doing it. And they had a control group and they had a treaty group, [00:14:00] experimental group, and the results were phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. Everyone can read this study. It's published on an Austrian nonprofit side in English and, and German, and it's, it's [00:14:10] phenomenal.
There was even a dog that was half paralyzed. And that dock within, I think it was within 24 hours of being in the quantum upgrade, started running. I still have that video. [00:14:20] Wow. And started running in circles and wouldn't stop because the dock suddenly just had so much energy. It was like an outflow of energy, and the dog was so happy at the same [00:14:30] time.
I mean, not that this is something that. If you have a half paralyzed dog, don't think, okay, you're put in the Corona. That's definitely gonna happen. Things like that can [00:14:40] happen. Mm-hmm. But what's important is that overall. All the markers they looked at were significantly better. The blood was better, the energy levels were [00:14:50] better, the organ health was better.
The digestive system worked better. Anxiety was reduced. Okay. I mean, there was anything that didn't [00:15:00] improve that they looked at.
Dave: So the quantum upgrade is a, a service. They do like a, a [00:15:10] remote service, and I know some people are going, well, wait a minute, look. Quantum effects operate at a distance with no lag time. Our bodies are [00:15:20] provably quantum systems. We've finally proved it in living brain tissue inside people's brains. That all the proton spin changes with your heart rate.
We are quantum at our very core, [00:15:30] so that provides a mechanism of action there. But with the quantum upgrade. You can put it on your address. Like, so basically your whole house is [00:15:40] quantum charge and you put it on a person. Right. Do you or pet? So you, you added pet. I didn't see the pet side. Yeah.
Philipp: We've had pet actually for years.
I didn't even know. You can have a cat. You can have [00:15:50] a dog or you can have a horse. We have actually racehorse owners that use the quantum up upgrade.
Dave: Do they win more?
Philipp: Well, they, they wanted us to [00:16:00] not, not talk about it too much. They want
Music: the other ones to use it as well.
Dave: Okay. I wanna get a little bit dark here.
Okay, so your [00:16:10] stuff works. Now, if you were like Pfizer blended with, I don't know, the CIA and MK Ultra, and whatever you would hear about on Joe [00:16:20] Rogan or something, if you blend a lot together. Couldn't you use this to negatively affect people?
Philipp: No. The worst that that a company like that could do [00:16:30] is to steal all of the technology to shoot everyone involved and to then hide it in a drawer.
So if someone wanted to use it [00:16:40] and then that wouldn't be possible because the technology is already out there. We made sure of that you know, and it couldn't be used for. Negative [00:16:50] frequencies and the the reason's relatively easy to explain. It's nothing we did to the field. I mean, we didn't invent the quantum field anyway, right?
I mean, just wanna pull that tooth and case anyone's out there [00:17:00] like what that guy invented in the quantum field. No, we're not claiming that. We found a method on how to access it and vibrate the ether to make it available in this reality in a [00:17:10] fashion not really done before. And if you have such a high concentrated quantum field, naturally, I.
It neutralizes and harmonizes anything that's [00:17:20] harmful to life and consciousness on a frequency level. So if I were to choose a herbicide or a pesticide or a fungicide frequency and wanted to add [00:17:30] it to the system to let it run, it would instantly be neutralized. So that's how the nature of reality kind of, it's the, it's the nature of that highly [00:17:40] concentrated quantum.
Music: Mm-hmm.
Philipp: So if someone were to steal it and then they wanted to just put negative frequencies in there, it wouldn't do anything.
Dave: Okay. That makes me feel better. 'cause I I [00:17:50] do, I. No for a fact that various agencies around the world have been experimenting with this kind of stuff for decades and decades, and [00:18:00] it's in freedom of Information Act, things like that.
And, and they can do stuff and they are
Philipp: doing stuff, but it's, it's, it's a different technology that they're using.
Dave: [00:18:10] Good deal. There's many different layers of, of technology there. It's, it's very much like computer hacking. Which is my background, right? And I know you have some telecom background as well, like, well, are you [00:18:20] gonna break in through the networking layer, right?
Or are you gonna break in through the application or the operating system and where's the vulnerability? And reality has lots of vulnerabilities [00:18:30] where you can manipulate people. I. And so it, it's, it's good to know that what you're using has a, a built in remove the negative which is cool.
Philipp: Yes. And you can see, for [00:18:40] example mm-hmm.
If you look at electromagnetic fields, right? Yeah. And people underrate the, the importance of electromagnetic fields that we look at that because it [00:18:50] really is a huge stressor to the human body. Mm-hmm. And I mean, you said it, I was a VP at T-Mobile for three years and. I know that side of the house. I [00:19:00] know the research side.
I know you and I agree that there's over a thousand peer reviewed studies that show the detrimental effects of electromagnetic fields. [00:19:10] Now, what I did not know though is until we did the brain research with an iPhone 15
Music: mm-hmm.
Philipp: Next to the ear. Simulating a [00:19:20] 5G phone call for 30 minutes. What that does to the brain already after it is so bad.
It is, honestly, it is probably the worst I've seen [00:19:30] and one of the experts in Europe running that EEG is an the most advanced EEG device on the market in Europe, that they use 256 channels. Mm-hmm. [00:19:40] They did a baseline reading 10 minutes, then they did 30 minutes, what I just described. People developed headaches right away.
The lady would describe the, the [00:19:50] brainwaves as before they were flowing naturally. And as soon as you turn on the 5G and that phone, it's as if it's completely in an [00:20:00] artificial box, completely in an artificial box. And then on top of that, everything that speaks to stress in the brainwaves got significantly amplified.
[00:20:10] Wow. And everything that's there for a balancing state. Just got whacked. And that is exactly, and and significantly, right? We're not talking marginal [00:20:20] changes. And then I. People did not know when, what was turned on and even what was turned on. And then the quantum upgrade came [00:20:30] into play. And by the way, again, the investigators in the lab were like, you know, I mean over distance, right?
I mean, nothing's gonna happen. And they, by the way, they have [00:20:40] tested probably 50 different technologies already. And of those 48 had zero effect. And they usually already, after the test, first test person, [00:20:50] they say, okay. We're not continuing with the study because your stuff doesn't do anything.
Dave: These are technologies to protect you from
Philipp: M Mobile phone or M Yeah.
Test these stickers and all that kind of stuff. That what people think [00:21:00] that, that, that works well. And I'm not saying there isn't a sticker out there that does work, but it's just hard to tell. Yeah. Is a problem. So, but they thought, of course it is another one of those [00:21:10] technologies. Then within the first few seconds of the quantum upgrade, starting with the very first test person, the lady was like, oh my [00:21:20] God, this stuff is real.
Oh my God, this stuff is real. And and she knew it. She didn't have to see all the other test person. Of course, all the other test persons were done as well. [00:21:30] Same thing happened. Mm-hmm. It neutralized. All the stressors and the brain, even when they're holding the phone up to their head, the same thing.
Dave: I'm not gonna be doing
Philipp: that.
The phone was right here. [00:21:40] Wow. Half an inch away from the, from the ear for 30 minutes and it's, it's incredible what happened. Do you hold phones up to your head? I. I do that [00:21:50] sometimes, but only if I have to. When I'm sitting in Uber, for example, and I need to take a phone call, I do that and I'm okay with that because I'm using the quantum upgrade.
And by the way, if I'm in an Uber, [00:22:00] that's a Tesla, for example, I'm putting my quantum upgrade on brain support. Mm. And if I'm in a plane, I'm using a different frequency. And yeah, that's how I [00:22:10] operate with the Cornwell. Clear, because it can help you. That's the point. It can really help you. And I know that there's a lot of people out there that you know.
Got it. Because you [00:22:20] suggested it. And I just met two of those at the airport in all Orlando. Cool. When I was flying here. Yes. And they were like, Hey, are you Philip? I mean, yeah. I'm Philip. We got the unquote great [00:22:30] and it's so awesome. It, it is so great. And they had heard it from you, so I'm like, yeah, this is fantastic.
Dave: You know, it, I, it was going out on a limb to talk about that because most [00:22:40] people just think that cannot be. Yeah. I know that humans can do that because, well, lots of the gurus I've studied with have abilities to do that. So why wouldn't [00:22:50] we be able to do that with technology? But here's what I want you to do.
I want you to pretend I am the most skeptical, hardcore engineer. You know, I [00:23:00] want you to explain quantum upgrade to me just using physics.
Music: Mm-hmm.
Philipp: Okay?
Dave: So.
Philipp: I cannot just do it in physics because regular physics doesn't [00:23:10] apply. And that is the type of brain that I don't even need to talk to. Like I need to literally pull you out of that world and say, look, you know all your regular physics stuff [00:23:20] now look into 2022 when the Nobel Prize for physics was awarded for quantum entanglement work.
Okay, well, quantum physics is [00:23:30] physics, okay? Yep. But that, you know. Just not the, it's not the regular physics. Mm-hmm. You know, like the school physics, because people I don't think talk about that in school. Yeah. And that's the first thing to [00:23:40] imagine. It's not, it's not like a weird idea that quantum entanglement is a real thing.
I think we now heard about this interesting chip, uh, [00:23:50] also microchip that was done with quantum work. So there's, the quantum effects are real effects now. We are able via [00:24:00] quantum entanglement to literally entangle the energy of, let's say a water with a lemon or any other frequency with [00:24:10] any other carrier.
And distance and time doesn't matter because in such a high vibrating quantum field, there isn't any distance anymore.
Dave: Well, there [00:24:20] is no time and there is no distance in quantum reality There. Basically hallucinations we make up. 'cause it's useful if you have a body, but. We can use math to show that we just perceive them.[00:24:30]
Philipp: Exactly. And we can measure, and that's, that's where the real hardcore proof comes in, right? Any chord in the world, in any lab in the world, if there's enough [00:24:40] testing instruments we can prove it comes on literally within seconds. You can see the effects and you can see the effects, for example, on water, [00:24:50] on such technology as well.
Okay? So it it is easily provable now. How does that work? How do we do that? Let's say if you wanted to use the [00:25:00] quantum, I know you use it already, but
Dave: let's pretend you are not. Yeah. I'm the skeptical engineer here. I'm like, okay, so you told me it has quantum woo in it, but explain a little bit more that my engineering [00:25:10] brain connect.
Philipp: So we need a direct link. Mm-hmm. To you, which could be different things. It could be a photograph, for example, but that's not how we set it up. It's just. Data. [00:25:20] It's something that identifies you clearly. A unique identifier first exactly, will be your first name, your last name, your birth city, your birthdate, and the country you live [00:25:30] in.
That even identifies a John Smith as an example. When we have that, we can place that into our system. That is, I would [00:25:40] argue it's the, at least one of the most powerful sources of quantum energy on earth. We place it in there and that in that moment. It's not that the system [00:25:50] sends energy to you. You are in the field that is the quantum entangle, and at that moment you are in the field literally, and it doesn't matter where you go, you're in the field.
And the [00:26:00] big, the big breakthrough was that we were able to create it in a way with the digital front end that you have 100% control over it because you say, [00:26:10] okay, I want to pause it, or I, I wanna run it. Okay, that's your choice. You wanna run it. Okay. And then you can even increase the energy levels. You can say, okay, I [00:26:20] want a booster of 4,600 on the Hawkins Scale, which is the highest booster we've.
Ever had so far not available for new users, [00:26:30] but over time you get unlocked. Oh, you turned that one on for me. So I think, I think so. You, you ha you have access to it. Yeah. And then, um, so you, you say, okay, 4,600 booster, because I have, [00:26:40] I don't know, a massive performance and I need to be fully alert and all of that.
And you pick your frequency, right, that you want, I don't know, you run a marathon, you use the Olympic [00:26:50] performance or the, the world champion frequency. You have a talk, use the brain support frequency, I don't know, whatever. You want something for sleep, you can set. And then [00:27:00] I. That gets moved to your data set in the system and basically signals.
Oh, okay. So he wants brain support at 4,600. Within five [00:27:10] minutes the system updates, and then you are in the field with that information of that frequency and the energy level, and then it's implemented and it's [00:27:20] difficult for. The brain to understand sometimes because we're so not used to such technology being around.
But if we went back to the 16 [00:27:30] hundreds right now and we would tell people what we can do with our smartphones, they would think the we're the crazy guys and you could even go back with me, I think [00:27:40] 10 years and we would tell them what we could do with AI and they would also think we're crazy. That's pretty much how it works.
Dave: Yeah. I, I'm getting some, some parts of [00:27:50] it. So you have a strong quantum energy that you can put frequencies in. How do you know what frequency is what?
Philipp: So, we have a capabilities in order to [00:28:00] actually see that. And we know and have proven that many times scientifically that we can. Copy any frequency that exists.
For example, a molecular [00:28:10] frequency with our technology one-on-one,
Dave: let's say like it's like magnetic resonance of non or of covalent bonds
Philipp: or something. No, it would be a molecular frequency, for example, of a [00:28:20] vitamin C pill of a healing plan or frequency. What's a molecular frequency measured with? Well.
Well, you can visualize it in water, for [00:28:30] example. That's one way to do it. But you can actually also see and feel the vibration of it. And
Dave: so like I'm a hardcore physicist in [00:28:40] this, in this exercise here. So. Okay, so we're talking about C so there's the color of it. We're talking like, like spectroscopy, like how do I, as [00:28:50] a hardcore physicist know that there's a frequency?
Philipp: I don't think as a hardcore physicist you would be able to measure any of these things because you have not even invented a chronometer. So you couldn't, you, [00:29:00] so you couldn't even That's a fair answer, even though I think, and I hope that within the next five years we'll actually have that. Okay. Some of, with some, some of the things.
Physics is playing [00:29:10] catch up. We must realize that. So then how did you do it? If physics doesn't know how to do it? Because we, we can, we have capabilities to actually see that and then we can to see this with your biology and then you can [00:29:20] measure the results of that, for example. So what ends up in the core of the cell, if you ingest a vitamin C pill, is the vibration of the vitamin C.
Mm-hmm. That very same [00:29:30] vibration of the vitamin C. We can copy and basically imitate the result. And then you see the cells. Basically react to that. [00:29:40] Okay. Because we're a biofield and that's how you can bypass the digestive tract, for example, with certain frequencies. That's pretty much how it works.
And since [00:29:50] we can copy that frequency, we can also make it available through the quantum upgrade. But now we don't have a vitamin C frequency there. We have specific other [00:30:00] frequencies and. You can see and test the results. So for example, that's a big thing. The, the brain support frequency that I talked about, for example, was [00:30:10] carefully crafted and developed in order to support specific parts of the brain.
And if it didn't work it, it didn't [00:30:20] work. It's very easy, right?
Music: Mm-hmm.
Philipp: But it works in a hundred percent of the cases in a significant way and does exactly what it's intended to [00:30:30] do.
Dave: And now I have to step outta my skeptical physicist hat here, but there is something called the holographic model of reality, and there's pretty good evidence for that, which would provide one [00:30:40] possible mechanism for the ability to do stuff like that.
And there's a, a whole bunch of other things out there that are in the realm, right on the cusp [00:30:50] of, is it, you know, quantum woo, or is it quantum PhD biology? And they're, they're lining up surprisingly well, so I can. I can [00:31:00] understand that one of the things about Quantum, since there is no time and there is no space, why don't you just turn it on for the whole planet and be done with it and go do something else?
Philipp: That's a great [00:31:10] question. And we've actually gotten that question before and we've also gotten the question, couldn't you just develop a frequency for everything? It's 42. It's a great question. Right. You know, every kid would [00:31:20] probably also ask that question, but it's, it's not possible and on, on various levels.
And the first question to answer is because there's free will. And that's actually one of [00:31:30] the things that we very carefully look at. Mm-hmm. Very carefully because. You're not allowed to use or turn on the quantum market rate [00:31:40] for a business that you don't own, or you have the rights to make that decision for.
Mm-hmm. As an example, you know, people may say, well just give it to Pfizer, you know, then they become a better [00:31:50] company. I. It's still their choice, right? It's their choice. If they wanna make that choice, they can make that choice. I know that pesky integrity thing. I get it. So [00:32:00] same thing is I'm actually with you.
Same thing is true for people. Really. We could not blast the planet because then we wouldn't be any better than anyone else manipulating things. And so everyone that [00:32:10] wants it can have it.
Dave: Mm-hmm. People have a right to choose to be evil. And if they don't have that right, then you can't choose to be good.
[00:32:20] Right. And that's one of the reasons why no amount of anyone complaining, yelling, bullying, can make someone do something [00:32:30] with and, and remain in integrity. Right. And that, that's just a fundamental condition of reality. Right. So I, I actually appreciate that. And I mean, [00:32:40] throughout. All of recorded history.
There's always been like dark sorcerers and bad energy people. And you know, there's whole manuals written for how to curse people and things like [00:32:50] that. And that's not my specialty, that's not my, my area of study. But it seems like we can negatively affect others against their will. And we can do it with bullets and probably some of [00:33:00] the more esoteric minded people are doing it with weird quantum stuff.
How do you explain that?
Philipp: I would just say I would really move on from that question and say. [00:33:10] Evil things can be done and good things can be done as well. Mm-hmm. The free will is very important and, and I want to rather stress the, the possibilities we have right now, [00:33:20] and that is something where I think we need to be eyeopening to people because there's too many people that still don't believe this can work yet.
It does work. Look at the science, everyone [00:33:30] look at the research because we have the capability. To change on a really, really big level the energy and harmonize it so that electromagnetic fields [00:33:40] as one of the many factors that we can positively influence, wouldn't have a negative effect anymore.
Right. If there was, let's say a T-Mobile that would say, okay, [00:33:50] we're gonna become the first network that is literally EMF free. Yeah. Right. Or em at least e emf positive, it could em f free. Just be beneficial. EMFs. Exactly. [00:34:00] So, mm-hmm. We could support that the technology is there. It could be done in a very cost effective way.
It could be done with electric cars on a massive scale. So that [00:34:10] is the possibility. The only reason why we're not yet as a quantum operate a multi, multi-billion dollar company is first of all, we've just existed for a few years, [00:34:20] and the second is because the vast majority of the people out there. Have not heard of it and couldn't even imagine in that moment right now that this can work.
That is the [00:34:30] only blockage. And by the way, I don't care about that. What I care about is that we help people and that we can really shift certain things. I. Again, it would need to [00:34:40] come through a pull. If a T-Mobile wants to make a change, then they can, we're happy to help them. If people on an individual level wanna make a change and help themselves and their family, [00:34:50] they can, the technology is out there.
Dave: The reason I'm asking about the, the kind of dark stuff is [00:35:00] that. I've found in energy healing communities, things like that, there can be a little bit of Pollyanna like, oh wow, let's, like, everything is all, you know, love and [00:35:10] roses, and that's actually not how reality works. You know, the reason the yin yang symbol is half dark and half white is that everything is not all, all light [00:35:20] and.
Many of the technologies that I've played a hand in building like Web 1.0 and some things around cloud computing and all, they've all been used for great [00:35:30] good and for surveillance and for oppression and all sorts of bad things, right? So anytime there's a new technology. The computer hacker in me says, [00:35:40] how do I, number one, know that someone's not already using it against me?
And number two, what is my defense setup so that I maintain my biological [00:35:50] and spiritual sovereignty? Like I want to be in charge of my own state. It's at the very definition of biohacking. Yeah, so that means I have to be aware of threats. Not freaked out, reactive and fearful, [00:36:00] but just aware so that I can choose to intelligently counter them.
And what you're doing is you're countering the negative effects of EMF. That's what Lela Quantum does well, and a bunch of other things. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So [00:36:10] I'm just asking about these other areas of negativity that people have. What does Lela Quantum do for that? Like, if people are sending mean thoughts to me, is that gonna do something?
Philipp: Yeah. So it's, it's all [00:36:20] about potentially harmful and destructive frequencies and indeed mean thoughts are some of those things. Right? And there's, there's stressors out there. There's things that get [00:36:30] displayed through the narrative through tv. Certain messages, certain fears, because those are low vibrational states.
If we step back and remember the work of Dr. David [00:36:40] Hawkins, right? Oh yeah. However force he set up this consciousness scale and the low vibrational states are anger, shame, guilt, fear. Yeah. Right. And if we vibrate in that, that's [00:36:50] what we will have in our lives. And, and then probably we're very receptive to certain, I don't know.
Fearmongering or whatever else, people, you're more programmable [00:37:00] negative. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and if we can get out of those states, go into higher states, then that goes right through us. It doesn't even bother us. And that's pretty much what [00:37:10] we've been able to do and figure out and how we strengthen the biofield in a way that it not only has physically positive, positive effects, but also on an [00:37:20] energetic level, basically makes us.
Be so expanded energetically and so strong that none of these things matter. And we literally become a [00:37:30] tractor field for more of the positive.
Dave: Mm-hmm. And, um, now you're sounding more like, uh, Joe Dispenza, who's gonna be on stage with you at the Biocon Conference. A good friend [00:37:40] with really powerful work.
You can change your energy field and you can change it to be an attractor. And, you know, I'm friends with some of the secret people and just lots of people in the field same, [00:37:50] same as you. Does using quantum upgrade or the Lila Quantum devices, does it change meditation? Does it change access to [00:38:00] altered states?
Does it work with psychedelics? Great
Philipp: question. Yes and yes. So let's talk about meditation first. So people can actually, at the booth, at your biohacking [00:38:10] conference for example, come to our booth and then they put their hands in the block. And what I usually tell them is, have you meditated before? And when they say yes, okay, just close your eyes for a minute [00:38:20] and.
Be aware, there's tons of people around, right? That's not the best place to meditate, but they get deeper into meditation in this one minute than they would get at home [00:38:30] in like 10 minutes because of that field and and every energy healer, and we have hundreds and hundreds of energy healers across the globe that are using [00:38:40] our technology has a benefit from it.
And I'm arguing also that Judis Penzer would benefit from it and not because he's not capable, he is very capable, but there's some. Others out there [00:38:50] that are at least as capable as he is, they are still using it. Why? Because it helps them at their level. It's not that you, if you're very new to meditation, [00:39:00] it helps you, but if you're very advanced, it still helps you because it works like an assistant on that level.
Hmm. So it's then certain things you don't need to take care of with your [00:39:10] energy field that you can focus on other things. Yeah. That's pretty much how it works.
Dave: Some people get really triggered when in heavily meditated, like, here's a way to [00:39:20] get to the state faster than meditation. Like, but you have to meditate.
And then I just look at it. I'm like, did you drive here? And they say, yes. And I say, but you have to walk. It's [00:39:30] like, how dare you? How lazy have you to use a tool? And there isn't a counterargument to that, right? It, it's. It's normal and healthy to use [00:39:40] effective techniques and technologies and tools and knowledge in order to do what you wanna do and to save energy so that you can put the energy elsewhere.
So I, [00:39:50] I have no issues with that. My experience and, and by the
Philipp: way, you can still meditate, right? So it's no one says, you know, just use the quantum upgrade and stop doing [00:40:00] yoga and meditation. Go ahead and do that too. Right? You just get more
Dave: benefits in less time. Right? Why not? Yeah, so it's like, hurry, do yoga faster.
Okay. If I only needed [00:40:10] a half hour yoga and I got the same results as an hour, like I'll spend the extra half hour drinking coffee and it's okay. Right. Okay. Now if I wanted do [00:40:20] quantum upgrade the danger coffee beans, how would I do that?
Philipp: Well, there is a way that we would have, it's not publicly available that we could, why have you not shared with me?
[00:40:30] So we, we, we, I'm angry. I'm kidding. We, we can do something like that and it could also be done with a lead quantum technology. There, there is ways to do it, but it's not publicly available. You know, right now [00:40:40] with quantum upgrade, you could not charge a physical object uhhuh other than your phone or your car.
Those are possible at the moment. Mm-hmm. Um, it's [00:40:50] just system limitations at, at that point, you know, you couldn't charge your glass of water for that. You would need a block. Got it. Well, fortunately, but we would have a way, let's say [00:41:00] your pack, if you have different packages with serial numbers of the danger coffee.
Mm-hmm. We would need to do some testing, which is better, but we could do the quantum right. I'd
Dave: be up for working with you [00:41:10] on that. And it, it's not like the danger coffee beans aren't already, uh, energetically enhanced. 'cause I know how to do that sort of thing. By the way, guys, I I don't really [00:41:20] talk about that very much, but yeah.
So there's intent and there's sometimes reasons that companies just grow. And it's because intention actually is [00:41:30] real and it matters. You just have to know how to use it. So I like tools that make my intention easier and stronger and require less effort because at the end of [00:41:40] the day, all life is lazy, which means we don't want to use more energy than we take in.
Shocking, right? Indeed. Okay, [00:41:50] well, we'll talk about doing that. I have all these cool questions. Okay. This is a great one. Is the human body a transmitter or a receiver, or [00:42:00] both? And how does quantum upgrade work with that?
Philipp: For me, it's definitely both, right? And it's, it's mainly for me, actually, the biofield.
Mm-hmm. [00:42:10] Because, you know, if, if we just look at the physical body, we miss out on what's. What's also there, so I, I know you, you look at both, but I want people out there to, to [00:42:20] realize that, right? So we brush our teeth in the morning, we, we take a shower in the morning and we take in our supplements, but we need to take care of our [00:42:30] biofuel because that's our energy.
And, and on that level, indeed we can send energy. We do that all the time with every thought that we think that ripples through the morphogenetic [00:42:40] field. And we also receive energies. So. It's just, you know, everyone can just prove that by going into a restaurant and [00:42:50] paying attention. Just go in, don't, don't walk further.
Stand there and look at some of the tables and just tune in. And you may notice, wow, there's [00:43:00] a. Tense energy because some people are maybe in a fight. Mm-hmm. Maybe there's some loving energy because there's two lovers there and you, you don't need to see them kissing. But you, you can, you [00:43:10] pick up these energies.
So we are receivers and we're transmitters all the time. And that is also I. That's one of the problems right now is that [00:43:20] the, the conscious mind is just like five to 10% of the brain, and what we actually realize and the rest is the subconscious mind. Mm-hmm. We pick up so much of the [00:43:30] subconscious mind and it runs the show.
If we don't pay attention, and if we can vibrate in a, let's say in a prosperity [00:43:40] frequency or in a. Heal healing frequency, for example. Then it vibrates through our whole system and not just in this conscious part. [00:43:50] That's the trick. Yeah. That's the trick of the quantum upgrade because if we can change our frequency state, that is what we invite into our lives.
That's what people haven't understood how [00:44:00] this reality works. Because I cannot make a change in the outer world unless I make a change in the inside. It's as if I look in the mirror and I wanna just make my hair in the mirror. It [00:44:10] just doesn't work. I have to make it within me. And that's really the trick.
It's not that difficult to understand, but that it, it requires to look [00:44:20] at that and to rewire yourself for that.
Dave: Cool. It, all this stuff is so hard to imagine and it's by design, like our very picture of [00:44:30] reality that we started building at the moment of conception, right? Your, your biological systems are going well, what is this place?
How do I figure all this stuff out? [00:44:40] And you're not you're not supposed to be able to perceive quantum stuff. It, it's, it's the very lowest level of reality and it doesn't matter for survival. It's completely [00:44:50] irrelevant. So the whole process of meditation, of, you know, becoming enlightened or just being on a spiritual path is learning how to become aware [00:45:00] of things that are unnecessary for based survival.
I. It's it's why most societies have cloistered, some number of people. [00:45:10] Hey, you go live in the cave for your entire life and take notes and then pass it down to the next guys. And, you know, maybe after a thousand years we'll figure out some of this stuff. We're just doing it faster with tech, and [00:45:20] now we're building tech that lets you intervene and accelerate things.
And I think it's kind of a cool time to be alive for that.
Philipp: That is really true. Yeah. And you know, also, it's [00:45:30] not just about the consciousness work really. It's also about physical optimization and maximization of my performance, because now we have world champions, [00:45:40] Olympians, mm-hmm. X Games winners.
Professional motocross riders that are using our stuff because it helps them, they don't care how [00:45:50] it works, they just care that it does work. Mm-hmm. And that's why they're using it. We have clinics now across the world that are increasingly starting to use our stuff in stem cell [00:46:00] therapy and ozone therapy and just trading their, their patients.
It's coming out there because it does help. And just because we don't understand maybe a [00:46:10] hundred percent of how it all works well, you know, what do we really understand a hundred percent of? I mean, I don't understand a hundred percent of how AI works and how it does all that. [00:46:20] Neither do the people who make it get a little bit of it, but
Music: yeah.
Philipp: I don't understand a hundred percent of how the body works.
Dave: Hmm. I, I had [00:46:30] so much fun at a consciousness conference recently. I'm on a panel with a bunch of of scientists, and I am a scientist of the computer variety, but [00:46:40] I. The question was one of those questions from moderators that are like, like kind of boring.
Like, oh, you know, what is the role of science in spirituality? And it, it's just for everyone going down the, [00:46:50] the line to like say something in the mic. And I'm like, I know I'll be misquoted on this. And I said it to the audience, I said, science is bullshit. And all the, these, you know, PhD [00:47:00] scientists are like, jerk.
And, and I'm like, no, you gotta listen. Science is looking to tell the best story we can about what we observe. [00:47:10] And that means it's almost always wrong because there's another story that's even better that's coming along and almost everything we believe 30 years ago in science has been disproven. [00:47:20] Right?
It has been changed. So science is like a cult, especially when you use a capital S and you, because you're in a human [00:47:30] body, you reject anything that doesn't agree with your story. And reality is, there are different stories that work and I. Some of them are more useful than [00:47:40] others, and, and I look at science that way, where we're continually evolving our understanding and our story of reality doesn't mean that science is right.[00:47:50]
It, it's a process of understanding. And true to my word, the New York Times of course, misos me and says, Dave says, science is [00:48:00] bullshit. I'm like, see guys, I told you I predicted the future using quantum. Okay, right. But the idea there. For anyone who's listening, if you're saying, well, my scientific [00:48:10] beliefs which you're probably wearing like a cloak of armor to stop from feeling or thinking about things, they are not correct.
Right? The standard model of physics is not a hundred [00:48:20] percent accurate. We do not know what the F is going on in there. We just have a really good way to predict mostly what's going on, and it's the 1%, or actually I think about 6% in the [00:48:30] standard model of physics. It's that 6% where all the magic happens.
That's where the new discovery, the new learning, the better stories. They are science right, and they may be wrong [00:48:40] too, because what we have now isn't a hundred percent, and the fact that there is one outlier that is unexplained makes it true [00:48:50] that we don't know what's going on. It just means we think we know what's going on.
And it's that sense of safety and not knowing that allows people to expand and to be curious and to explore. Say, look, I'll [00:49:00] try something and see if it works or not. And one of the things that you do that I think is, is pretty cool is for quantum upgrade, you just give people 15 days for free. So [00:49:10] then Okay.
For your audience.
Philipp: Okay. Otherwise they
Dave: would
Philipp: not get 50. Oh no, because that's only
Dave: for, okay, well there you go. I, I thought I didn't know we were that special. So guys that is something that, uh. [00:49:20] That Philip is doing, and I, I don't remember the code, but I have it written down on my notes. Do you know what it is off the top of your head?
I would say it's called
Philipp: Dave and it usually is, it's 15 days for [00:49:30] free and there's not even a credit card required, so we made that change a few weeks ago. Oh, that's legit. Don't even provide any payment method, anything. Just try it. Go try it. Okay. Then [00:49:40] you need to sign up though if you want to keep it.
All right.
Dave: Here's how it works. Quantum upgrade.io/dave. And that's gonna give you 15 days to say, do I [00:49:50] notice a difference? And if you're highly skeptical saying, well, it could be placebo, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, here's what to do. Turn it on, set it up, however you wanna do it. And [00:50:00] then ask a few people after 15 days who are close to you in your life, what they've observed.
And don't tell 'em that you did anything special. Say, have you seen anything different? See what they do. You're probably gonna [00:50:10] get some interesting information that way. And you could also say, did I feel something? But then you can worry, oh, it might be placebo. Well, if so, and you think it's [00:50:20] placebo, placebo usually lasts for about six weeks.
So what you would do then is you would sign up for the first month and keep running it and see if you still, if you still feel the [00:50:30] changes. My one caution would be any performance enhancement technique, if you use it consistently becomes your new normal in about six weeks. And [00:50:40] the first time I took smart drugs, I learned about this as my mid twenties terrible brain fog, and I bought a bunch of expensive, smart drugs from Europe.
I took them for a week and thought, God, [00:50:50] I just wasted all that money and I stopped taking them. Then the next day, oh my gosh, I'm struggling to find words. And I realized that when I was taking these things, I just [00:51:00] felt so normal. Right. And I've been on things like Modafinil, which is a performance enhancing cognitive enhancer.
I've made it a big part of the biohacking [00:51:10] world. Um, I've been on that for 25 years, most days, and relatively low dose. Because it consistently works. And I notice my brain just works that way all the [00:51:20] time. But if I stop taking it, then Oh wow. That's right. My brain used to work that way. So if you start using quantum upgrade after about six weeks, you're gonna feel like, wow.
Like things are always like [00:51:30] this. And I think that's worth it. That also happens when you eat well. You stay hydrated, you get good sleep. Like that's how you're supposed to feel. So I would really encourage [00:51:40] you, give it a try. It is something I do use. It's something that. I have turned on for the biohacking conference that's happening this week here in Austin.
4,000 people, they'll be [00:51:50] in the field and I'm also doing things with my own intention and other, other stuff you don't need to know about. But the reality is I'm doing everything I can think [00:52:00] of. I. Or imagine to create the most amazing experience there is, and I'm happy to go quantum. I'm happy to change the lighting frequencies in the hotel and to feed you good [00:52:10] protein and all that.
It all goes together. And so how do you stack the odds in your favor that you have the most amazing life you can have? I truly believe in this stuff. I actually use it and [00:52:20] I, I, my kids have pendants. This, this stuff is real. So we have a Quantum's legit and it's quantum upgrade.io/dave, and because you listen to the show, you're [00:52:30] getting that 15 days.
So you have nothing to lose and you don't have to put your credit card number in. You didn't even tell me that, Philip. That's cool. So thank you for. Creating something interesting [00:52:40] and curious and for just continuing to push back against all the people say that can't be, therefore it isn't. Those people.
Dunno, science. See you next time [00:52:50] on the Human Upgrade podcast.
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