In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, my guest is Jamie Metzl, a leading futurist, geopolitical expert, science fiction novelist, media commentator and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. He served in the White House, State Department, and United Nations.
In 2019, he was appointed to the World Health Organization’s (WHO) expert advisory committee on developing global standards for the governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie’s work with the WHO and his background in international relations gives him a unique perspective on the coronavirus.
It another great connection, his newest book “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity” leads us right into a discussion about genetic engineering to help fight viruses. “We like to imagine ourselves in harmony with nature, but we’re at war with nature,” Jamie says. There are reasons to both fear and be excited about the possiblities of genetic engineering.
Jamie also provides advisory services to governments, businesses, and institutions about the best ways to understand, predict, and prepare for revolutionary and converging technological, social, and geopolitical change. The coronavirus pandemic set in motion an evolving series of crises around the world—from governance to health to economic and, finally, to political.
“We have a huge fight ahead of us,” Jamie says. “The world on the other side is going to be very different from what it is going in, but now’s the time we need to be thinking about what we want that world to look like, and making sure that it’s a world that reflects our best values.”
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Book: Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity
- When people think about genetic engineering – 2:15
- How do we best use technologies to help us and not hurt us – 4:02
- That’s what evolution is all about. You have mutations. – 6:45
- We’re the country that invented the entire concept of public health – 8:0
- CRISPR technology is moving at warp speed – 11:38
- Science brings us to the conversation. The conversation is about ethic. – 13:5
- We like to imagine ourselves in harmony with nature, but we’re at war with nature. – 18:22
- We could have had a leadership that took this threat seriously. – 22:10
- FDR talked about the four freedoms – 26:00
- If every company was behaving ethically, we wouldn’t need any regulators. – 32:10
- How are we going to organize to do what needs to be done? – 36:53
- These tools can help us but they can also hurt us. That’s why we have to have conversations.- 40:00
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