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In this episode of The Human Upgrade, Dave Asprey dives into the future of artificial intelligence with Mo Gawdat, bestselling author and former Chief Business Officer of Google X. Together, they explore the profound ethical dilemmas and transformative potential of AI, from its role in reshaping human happiness to its power to create a world of infinite abundance—or unprecedented destruction. Mo shares insights into aligning AI with human values, the risks of unchecked technological power, and the mindset shifts needed to thrive in the age of superintelligence. Packed with bold ideas, practical frameworks, and visionary thinking, this episode will leave you rethinking what’s possible in a world shared with machines.
Will the next nuclear bomb be AI Superintelligence?
The intelligence we’re building will reshape the world in ways we never imagined—for better or worse? But more importantly, what side will humanity take?
In this episode, Mo Gawdat, bestselling author of Scary Smart and former Chief Business Officer of Google X, joins Dave to tackle the profound challenges and opportunities artificial intelligence presents. This isn’t about dystopian robots or tech hype—it’s about redefining what it means to be human in the age of machines. There’s hope, don’t worry!
Mo dives into the reality of how AI is already shaping our behavior, our ethics, and even our potential for happiness. He reveals the critical need for aligning intelligence—human or artificial—with values that promote global abundance and collaboration. Dave and Mo mix data, philosophy, and bold visions, to show why our future depends on shifting from competition to cooperation. But most importantly, why all of this is going to make you a better YOU.
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Cold open.
Dave sets the stage for part two of this insightful conversation, introducing Mo’s thought-provoking ideas on AI and ethics.
Mo explains the intricate ways AI affects human happiness, exploring whether technology can truly make us happier or if it exacerbates deeper issues.
A discussion on how the separation of power and responsibility in the tech world has created ethical dilemmas with far-reaching consequences.
Mo outlines how AI is reshaping industries, altering economies, and changing the dynamics of human interaction in profound ways.
A critical exploration of humanity’s path forward with AI—will it unlock infinite abundance or lead to catastrophic societal collapse?
Mo emphasizes the urgent need to align AI’s development with human values, ensuring it serves humanity rather than undermines it.
Mo and Dave wrap up the episode with a hopeful vision for a future where AI enhances human flourishing while avoiding potential pitfalls.
Resources:
2025 Biohacking Conference – https://biohackingconference.com/2025
Mo Gawdat’s Book: Scary Smart – https://a.co/d/6DukqyW
Mo Gawdat’s Book: Unstressable – https://a.co/d/hrbpY9O
Follow Mo Gawdat on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/mo_gawdat/
Danger Coffee – https://dangercoffee.com
Dave Asprey’s Website – https://daveasprey.com
Dave Asprey’s Book: Smarter Not Harder – https://daveasprey.com/books
Dave Asprey’s Linktree – https://linktr.ee/daveasprey
Upgrade Collective: Join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live – https://www.ourupgradecollective.com
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40 Years of Zen – Neurofeedback Training for Advanced Cognitive Enhancement – https://40yearsofzen.com
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