The Stress-Sleep Connection That’s Keeping You Up at Night

Dave Rabin, M.D., Ph.D.

Find out how to decrease your stress reactivity and increase your sleep quality. Your REM, heart rate variability, and resting heart rate will thank you.


In this Episode of The Human Upgrade™...

…you’ll learn about the impact of chronic stress in humans, how it wrecks your sleep and what you can do about it.

For more than a decade, neuroscientist, board-certified psychiatrist, health tech entrepreneur and inventor Dave Rabin (an M.D. and Ph.D.) has been immersed in the science of stress. He’s been researching causes and ways to manage it. He’s also been helping people deal with the consequences of both acute and chronic stress.

He’s back on the show (don’t miss episodes #729 and #730) to talk about how stress disturbs systems of your body and mind, which, of course, affects your sleep.

Stress is not inherently bad because we require it to grow, Dr. Rabin says. “We require the stress to help us learn how to overcome the challenges that are signaled by the stress to become better, stronger, fuller versions of ourselves.” … “There are the situations where we start to see acute stress that can be healthy and very helpful to growth turn into chronic stress,” he continues. “And that chronic stress increases inflammation on a daily basis. It’s that chronic stress that increases likelihood of disease.”

“The reason why we struggle the most to fall asleep is not because of sleep itself. It's because of that transition period between getting from wide awake to asleep or to deep sleep.”

Dave Rabin, M.D., Ph.D.

Dr. Rabin co-founded Apollo Neuroscience, a company that developed the first scientifically validated wearable technology that actively improves energy, focus and relaxation. This tech uses a novel touch therapy that signals safety to the brain. In new studies, it’s had a terrific impact on stress and sleep.

“Health means the restoration and maintenance of balance for all of us,” he says. “Critically important is managing our sleep and our circadian rhythms, and our sleep and wake cycles. Maintaining sleep and making sure we do things to have a healthy sleep rhythm is going to maximize our performance and energy availability during the day and psychedelic medicines and wearables can play as important to role in that for us as the day-to-day practices of breathwork and meditation, yoga, exercise and nutrition.”

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  • The best way to start that out is to really think about from a 10,000 foot view of what health really means. Health means the restoration and maintenance of balance for all of us.  – 4:37
  • What is founders therapy for entrepreneurs versus regular therapy for entrepreneurs?  – 8:10
  • There are a couple really critical flags to pay attention to when you’re establishing a relationship with a new coach, therapist or psychiatrist or doctor of any kind, anyone who positions themselves as a healer. – 17:39
  • So now I’m stressed about stress. I’m also stressed about not getting enough sleep. So is there stressorexia happening right now where people are stressed about their stress?  – 22:12
  • When you add Apollo, you see statistically significant increases in deep sleep, REM sleep, total sleep. And when people use Apollo consistently, we see increases statistically and clinically significant in all of those areas, including sleep efficiency. – 25:40
  • 14% increases in REM, 11% increases in HRV and a 4% reduction in resting heart rate, these people are using Apollo both day and night for three or more hours a day.  – 27:12
  • The reason why we struggle the most to fall asleep is not because of sleep itself. It’s because of that transition period between getting from wide awake to asleep or to deep sleep, which is our most restful stage of sleep.  – 31:26
  • Everything we’re talking about this entire conversation has been about how do we be more present? How do we center our minds?  – 36:21
  • Nutrition is critical. Soothing touch is critical. Being around people we love, that love us, that don’t judge us all the time, that listen to us when we need to be heard and make us feel heard. All of these things are critical.  – 43:41
  • Loneliness is one of those fundamental triggers of our stress response system we were talking about earlier, but it doesn’t have to be, because being alone and lonely are different. – 47:31
  • The data we do have back is that people are using Apollo on average are about 40% less stressed out when they use Apollo in these situations than when they don’t.  – 53:55
  • The more we train our ability to adapt to switching states, then the more quickly we can switch states and achieve very high levels of performance and then recover very quickly. And this is something that’s often trained in elite athletes, – 57:31
  • You said before wrist or ankle is better than wrists, but how many people are ankle people versus wrist people, do you know?  – 1:01:27
  • If anyone is listening, has an Aura ring or wants to get an Aura ring and Apollo and participate, you can actually sign up directly on our website in the sleep study section of our blog, the Apollo Sleep Study.  – 1:08:43

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