In this episode of The Human Upgrade, Host Dave Asprey sits down with Chris Burres, founder and chief scientist of MyVitalC, for a deep, systems-level conversation on carbon 60, mitochondria, and longevity science. They unpack how this Nobel Prize–winning molecule delivered the single longest lifespan extension ever recorded in mammal studies, why it behaves differently from traditional antioxidants, and how it interacts with mitochondrial function, oxidative stress, and cellular energy. Dave and Chris explore the real-world biohacking implications of C60, including sleep optimization, human performance, metabolism, and anti-aging strategies, while addressing purity, stability, and supplement industry pitfalls. The discussion spans quantum biology, selective antioxidants, biological age testing, athletic performance, migraines, and why mitochondrial health may influence cognition, resilience, and even consciousness.
In the late 1990s, a strange carbon molecule quietly delivered the single longest lifespan extension ever recorded in mammals. The rats lived about 90% longer, and almost no one was paying attention. This episode breaks down what that molecule is, why it works, and how it may upgrade mitochondria, sleep, and human performance when used correctly.
Host Dave Asprey sits down with Chris Burres, founder and chief scientist of MyVitalC and the original long-term manufacturer of carbon 60. Chris has produced this Nobel Prize–winning molecule since the early 1990s, supplying research institutions around the world years before it ever entered the biohacking space. He explains how carbon 60 behaves differently from traditional antioxidants, why stability and concentration used to be major problems, and how modern manufacturing finally made real-world use possible. Chris is also a published author, longevity summit host, patent holder, and longtime science communicator who brings rare clarity and humor to complex biology.
Dave and Chris explore how carbon 60 interacts with mitochondria, oxidative stress, metabolism, and electrical signaling in the body, and where it fits alongside ketosis, nootropics, supplements, and functional medicine strategies. They also unpack why improving mitochondrial function often shows up first as better energy and sleep optimization, and how that foundation supports longevity, brain optimization, and Smarter Not Harder performance. Along the way, Dave shares his own early experience with C60, how he uses it today, and why it now shows up even in his Danger Coffee stack.
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0:00 – Introduction & C60 Discovery
Dave introduces C60, a carbon molecule that extended rat lifespan by 90% in early studies
4:04 – The Molecule & Nobel Prize
Chris explains how C60 was discovered in 1985 and earned three scientists the Nobel Prize in 1996
8:27 – Quantum Properties & Superconductivity
Discussion of C60’s unique electrical properties and quantum behavior at room temperature
11:16 – Rat Longevity Study Results
Deep dive into the landmark study showing 90% life extension and liver protection in rats
14:33 – Selective Antioxidant Properties
How ESS60 targets only harmful oxidative stress while preserving beneficial exercise adaptations
15:51 – User Experience & Timeline
What to expect: month one brings focus and energy, month two improves sleep, month three shows systemic benefits
18:15 – Biological Age Testing
Chris shares his personal results showing 20–34 years younger on various biological age tests
21:33 – Why Oil & Product Development
Explanation of why C60 must be dissolved in oil for bioavailability and the gel cap solution
23:32 – Mechanism of Action
The BOSS theory explains how ESS60 buffers reactive oxygen species in mitochondria to prevent cellular damage
28:13 – Biohacker Discovery Story
How early biohackers discovered C60’s benefits in 2013 despite “not for human consumption” labels
30:03 – FDA & Supplement Regulation
Discussion of supplement industry oversight and MyVitalC’s commitment to research and transparency
32:34 – Research & Studies
Overview of ongoing human studies including sleep, HSCRP inflammation markers, and migraine research
33:50 – Migraines & Clinical Observations
Chris shares how his migraines dropped from 4–5 per year to 1–2 with reduced severity
37:53 – Athletic Performance
Ultra-runner Anthony Kunkel explains improved strength and stability during extreme endurance events
40:43 – Stacking & Contraindications
What stacks well with ESS60, including red light and methylene blue, plus the one caution with UV therapy
45:57 – Skincare Product
Introduction to the two-part Skin Redo system combining ESS60 with GHK copper peptide for anti-aging
50:43 – Who Benefits Most
Why people pushing their physical or mental limits see the biggest gains from mitochondrial support
60:37 – Mitochondria & Consciousness
Dave explains how stronger mitochondrial function amplifies intuition, creativity, and altered states
1:02:03 – Where to Buy & Closing
How to access the special discount at myvitalc.com/humanupgrade and support Operation Underground Railroad
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